Comments on: Survivalism vs. Biblical Christianity http://neosurvivalist.net/2010/survivalism-vs-biblical-christianity/ Mainstream Survivalism For Regular People Mon, 07 Feb 2011 02:29:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: kerusso777 http://neosurvivalist.net/2010/survivalism-vs-biblical-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-1525 kerusso777 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 02:29:12 +0000 http://neosurvivalist.net/?p=72#comment-1525 I am a Christian struggling with the same issues. I feel I should be more prepared for the possible collapse of the grid. For my family's sake also. However, Christ wants us to be in the world enough to evangelise it. How do we do this if we are waaaaay out in the boondocks on our self-sufficient farm? Currently I preach the gospel publicly on a regular basis, but I wonder how to continue to do so if I get off the grid... Blessing in Jesus, kerusso777 I am a Christian struggling with the same issues. I feel I should be more prepared for the possible collapse of the grid. For my family’s sake also.

However, Christ wants us to be in the world enough to evangelise it. How do we do this if we are waaaaay out in the boondocks on our self-sufficient farm? Currently I preach the gospel publicly on a regular basis, but I wonder how to continue to do so if I get off the grid…

Blessing in Jesus,

kerusso777

]]> By: Carmen http://neosurvivalist.net/2010/survivalism-vs-biblical-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-478 Carmen Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:07:59 +0000 http://neosurvivalist.net/?p=72#comment-478 I have tried to involve my neighborhood in the 'self-reliance' concept but nobody seems to believe that a catastrophe of any kind, be it earthquake, storm, emp, solar flares, or even a breakdown in society can or will possibly affect them -- how short-sighted! I have offered to show them how to grow food - but I can't get past the political hawks in the neighborhood. So, I've just decided that we will do this on our own and with our one neighbor who is a like-thinker. Now, should something occur??? I have stocked up and would be happy to share with those senior citizens who are not capable of the hard work or financial strain of stocking the necessities. I hope I don't sound cold - I'm not. But I've tried to involve others - they just can't see past their noses and their politics! I have tried to involve my neighborhood in the ‘self-reliance’ concept but nobody seems to believe that a catastrophe of any kind, be it earthquake, storm, emp, solar flares, or even a breakdown in society can or will possibly affect them — how short-sighted! I have offered to show them how to grow food – but I can’t get past the political hawks in the neighborhood. So, I’ve just decided that we will do this on our own and with our one neighbor who is a like-thinker. Now, should something occur??? I have stocked up and would be happy to share with those senior citizens who are not capable of the hard work or financial strain of stocking the necessities. I hope I don’t sound cold – I’m not. But I’ve tried to involve others – they just can’t see past their noses and their politics!

]]> By: Palmbay Lou http://neosurvivalist.net/2010/survivalism-vs-biblical-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-381 Palmbay Lou Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:53:38 +0000 http://neosurvivalist.net/?p=72#comment-381 Hello, I am a fellow Christian and I just now found your blog. I also struggled a few years ago with my thoughts and feelings concerning preparing for the change in our country and in modern society. I was led years ago to purchase a gun for self defense and acquire a permit to conceal. My wife feels the same and we both have taken many training classes locally with NRA certified instructors. We have been moving more and more toward self-reliance which to me is more about being able to respond to my own needs and not have to draw off the system thus leaving medicines and food for those who had no resources to prepare. I have also done some things to have emergency back-up power in case of temporary grid failure. Many times I asked God why these feelings were coming up inside of me. I talked with my wife about it and she feels the need also. I have noticed that I have a new level of energy about these things and how all of it can be for preserving the church as a whole. My wife and I believe that God does not expect nor desires for His church to be removed from this earth and we are that church. While we live and seek God's face as David did we invite Jesus into our hearts and can be Jesus with flesh on to those around us who are in need. Many needs are coming up in the near future and one of the most important is spiritual. Those of us who have given their hearts and lives to Christ Jesus can be living road signs for others who are seeking a refuge from the impending storms. I do agree that we can take something from our bounty and share with others whether it is food, time, money or wisdom. Many in this country (USA)either choose to ignore or are blind to what is happening politically, morally and spiritually and choose to do nothing. Some of our neighbors may not have the means to put up extra food or buy water filtering supplies that is why it is important for us who have awoke because of God's call in our spirit, to learn how to make home made charcoal filters for water, learn how to utilize solar power to cook food. Share our talents with one another in the building and construction areas. Share science, food production methods, how to properly handle guns and how to reload ammunition when your able. The point is sharing, if our hearts are open to sharing from what God has enabled us to acquire then we are not closed off. As long as we continue to at least make room for God in all we do we are at the ready to hear His voice in our prayer time, in our children's laughter, in our dreams and visions. We are one through Christ Jesus. We are his church. It must survive, we must survive, we must put on the helmet of righteousness and cloak of truth. Be true to who you are and you are then being true to who He is in you. Hello, I am a fellow Christian and I just now found your blog. I also struggled a few years ago with my thoughts and feelings concerning preparing for the change in our country and in modern society. I was led years ago to purchase a gun for self defense and acquire a permit to conceal. My wife feels the same and we both have taken many training classes locally with NRA certified instructors. We have been moving more and more toward self-reliance which to me is more about being able to respond to my own needs and not have to draw off the system thus leaving medicines and food for those who had no resources to prepare. I have also done some things to have emergency back-up power in case of temporary grid failure. Many times I asked God why these feelings were coming up inside of me. I talked with my wife about it and she feels the need also. I have noticed that I have a new level of energy about these things and how all of it can be for preserving the church as a whole. My wife and I believe that God does not expect nor desires for His church to be removed from this earth and we are that church. While we live and seek God’s face as David did we invite Jesus into our hearts and can be Jesus with flesh on to those around us who are in need. Many needs are coming up in the near future and one of the most important is spiritual. Those of us who have given their hearts and lives to Christ Jesus can be living road signs for others who are seeking a refuge from the impending storms.

I do agree that we can take something from our bounty and share with others whether it is food, time, money or wisdom. Many in this country (USA)either choose to ignore or are blind to what is happening politically, morally and spiritually and choose to do nothing. Some of our neighbors may not have the means to put up extra food or buy water filtering supplies that is why it is important for us who have awoke because of God’s call in our spirit, to learn how to make home made charcoal filters for water, learn how to utilize solar power to cook food. Share our talents with one another in the building and construction areas. Share science, food production methods, how to properly handle guns and how to reload ammunition when your able. The point is sharing, if our hearts are open to sharing from what God has enabled us to acquire then we are not closed off. As long as we continue to at least make room for God in all we do we are at the ready to hear His voice in our prayer time, in our children’s laughter, in our dreams and visions. We are one through Christ Jesus. We are his church. It must survive, we must survive, we must put on the helmet of righteousness and cloak of truth. Be true to who you are and you are then being true to who He is in you.

]]> By: golfguy http://neosurvivalist.net/2010/survivalism-vs-biblical-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-287 golfguy Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:00:45 +0000 http://neosurvivalist.net/?p=72#comment-287 As someone who is new to prepping and returning to christianity I have also struggled at times with your dilemma. I do have a retreat in the country, I do prepare for what i think will be the fall of our nation and all the ills that may come our way. As i try to put more of my trust in the lord everyday I hope that his divine guidance will set me on a path that will be the right path and reveal to me what he wishes me to do. With that said, I feel that I or someone in my family will never be able to be used by the lord if we don't think ahead and prepare for the future. I will look after my own first and foremost but will be willing to help the one's who are not as prepared as i am and who may be of help later on. prepare for the worst and hope for the best. We will need many good people to rebuild this great nation As someone who is new to prepping and returning to christianity I have also struggled at times with your dilemma. I do have a retreat in the country, I do prepare for what i think will be the fall of our nation and all the ills that may come our way. As i try to put more of my trust in the lord everyday I hope that his divine guidance will set me on a path that will be the right path and reveal to me what he wishes me to do.
With that said, I feel that I or someone in my family will never be able to be used by the lord if we don’t think ahead and prepare for the future. I will look after my own first and foremost but will be willing to help the one’s who are not as prepared as i am and who may be of help later on.
prepare for the worst and hope for the best. We will need many good people to rebuild this great nation

]]> By: Manuel Ochoa http://neosurvivalist.net/2010/survivalism-vs-biblical-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-169 Manuel Ochoa Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:31:27 +0000 http://neosurvivalist.net/?p=72#comment-169 I think you are right on! If you are storing food to provide for your family, you are not hoarding. You are simply making wise discussions to provide for your family. I am 53 years old and have been a Christian for 33 years. I attend a non-denominational bible church in Dallas Texas. I recently had my wake up call after doing a little bit of research. Check out these links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net http://mises.org/media/5005 Please also watch the documentary: Collapse - Based on the book by Michael Ruppert It looks like you have a lot of content here. I will definitely be back! I think you are right on! If you are storing food to provide for your family, you are not hoarding. You are simply making wise discussions to provide for your family. I am 53 years old and have been a Christian for 33 years. I attend a non-denominational bible church in Dallas Texas. I recently had my wake up call after doing a little bit of research. Check out these links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net
http://mises.org/media/5005

Please also watch the documentary: Collapse – Based on the book by Michael Ruppert

It looks like you have a lot of content here. I will definitely be back!

]]> By: NetRanger http://neosurvivalist.net/2010/survivalism-vs-biblical-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-160 NetRanger Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:06:35 +0000 http://neosurvivalist.net/?p=72#comment-160 God created the heavens and the earth. Do you REALLY think that if you isolate yourself from the hoardes that God will not use you to preach the Gospel? I mean, really? Just do what you have to do but continue to be willing. Maybe your purpose, your calling is not to be the maker of disciples. It may be to survive for a later time and then be the maker of disciples. Cliff Notes Version: If you are willing, God will use you regardless of how isolated. But! Only if you are willing. Again, do you think that God won't lead people to you that need what you have? Essentially the isolationism and the hoarding are the same thing. Hoarding Gods love in one instance. Hoarding material goods in another. BTW, the Bible never said anything against storing up for what you need and preparing for the future. What it does say is that putting your salvation in your preps is futile. "What if thy life is required of thee tonight?" This after the rich man spent all his life filling his barns thinking he would be saved. The Cliff Notes Version: Don't think barns full of asbestos clothing and bottles of water will save your from hell. It won't. ...also, on hoarding, hoarding by nature is not just getting a lot of stuff. It has two components: 1) a near psychotic devotion to acquiring stuff and way, way, WAY more than you would ever need. 2) not sharing it with people in need. Rawles even asks, "If the old lady down the street comes begging for food, will you turn her away?" Rawles believes that its not only necessary but it is OUR DUTY BEFORE GOD to not turn them away empty handed. In his book "How To Survive The End Of The Word As We Know It" he explains that you have to store enough food for you, your family and as many il-prepared neighbors, friends and relatives that will show up. Bear in mind, you will be required to use the resources you have stored for the glory of The Kingdom. ...and you will be glad to do it! Trust me on this. I've been there. As your faith deepens, you will realize that so much of the Bible, when viewed through the lens of modern society, gets completely out of focus. What seems like compliance is really rebellion and what seems like hate is really love. Like all things good, satan attempts to trick us. With our perceptions, there is no reprieve. God created the heavens and the earth. Do you REALLY think that if you isolate yourself from the hoardes that God will not use you to preach the Gospel? I mean, really? Just do what you have to do but continue to be willing. Maybe your purpose, your calling is not to be the maker of disciples. It may be to survive for a later time and then be the maker of disciples. Cliff Notes Version: If you are willing, God will use you regardless of how isolated. But! Only if you are willing.

Again, do you think that God won’t lead people to you that need what you have? Essentially the isolationism and the hoarding are the same thing. Hoarding Gods love in one instance. Hoarding material goods in another. BTW, the Bible never said anything against storing up for what you need and preparing for the future. What it does say is that putting your salvation in your preps is futile. “What if thy life is required of thee tonight?” This after the rich man spent all his life filling his barns thinking he would be saved. The Cliff Notes Version: Don’t think barns full of asbestos clothing and bottles of water will save your from hell. It won’t.

…also, on hoarding, hoarding by nature is not just getting a lot of stuff. It has two components: 1) a near psychotic devotion to acquiring stuff and way, way, WAY more than you would ever need. 2) not sharing it with people in need. Rawles even asks, “If the old lady down the street comes begging for food, will you turn her away?” Rawles believes that its not only necessary but it is OUR DUTY BEFORE GOD to not turn them away empty handed. In his book “How To Survive The End Of The Word As We Know It” he explains that you have to store enough food for you, your family and as many il-prepared neighbors, friends and relatives that will show up.

Bear in mind, you will be required to use the resources you have stored for the glory of The Kingdom. …and you will be glad to do it! Trust me on this. I’ve been there.

As your faith deepens, you will realize that so much of the Bible, when viewed through the lens of modern society, gets completely out of focus. What seems like compliance is really rebellion and what seems like hate is really love. Like all things good, satan attempts to trick us. With our perceptions, there is no reprieve.

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